Needed Social Control and Christianity

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Even though Christian beliefs are not needed for respect (respect of kids to parents, especially) - in my area, it's all in the game. Anyway, I can see the need for social control - and why people might be clinging on to religion - for social control first, and for other stuff, second.
 

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Interestingly, the societies with the best social health are those that are the least religious.
 
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Interestingly, the societies with the best social health are those that are the least religious.
This makes sense, though, all thing considered. Religions often clash over beliefs, and sadly, many radicals (specifically Christian and Islamic) take these beliefs to the extreme by either physical violence or verbal abuse. The irony of the situation is that radicals, in trying to get others to adhere to their law, completely ignore other parts of their religious codes.
 

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To be honest, some people who are anti-religious - are not in a "social control" atmosphere. What I mean is they aren't parents, they aren't prison guards, they aren't teachers. It's easy for them to dismiss order, when it means nothing to them.
 

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If a society is using religion as a means of control, we know from history this always comes at a great loss of personal freedom and a whole host of other societal ills.
 
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If a society is using religion as a means of control, we know from history this always comes at a great loss of personal freedom and a whole host of other societal ills.
Well, the Communists tried to ban religion, the Nazis tried to change it. In both instances, we saw a great oppression.
 

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I would actually rather live in a society where people treat each other well because it's the right thing to do, and for purely humanist reasons. Doing so out of fear of some supernatural punishment, or in expectation of some supernatural reward seems disingenuous by comparison. A good person doesn't need religion to behave well.
 

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I would actually rather live in a society where people treat each other well because it's the right thing to do, and for purely humanist reasons. Doing so out of fear of some supernatural punishment, or in expectation of some supernatural reward seems disingenuous by comparison. A good person doesn't need religion to behave well.
Well, Christianity, at least most of it, sees other religions as false.
 

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Yes, most religions would state all the others are wrong, since most make unfalsifiable claims that are at odds with one another. Religion shouldn't drive government policies though, it should be kept sequestered in the churches/temples and not allowed to intrude in areas where it doesn't belong and only causes harm. Our forefathers were very careful to separate church and state, yet we see religion knocking on doors it has no business knocking on.
 

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